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With more than 150 questions answered by professional songwriters, this is one of the "meatiest" sections on Lyrical Line! Each page highlights ten questions that link to the answers below.

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31 Sending songs to publishers
32 Songwriting in school
33 Should I sign a contract and pay them
34 Do I have to submit pro demos for copyright registration
35 How much production is necessary
36 How do I get my favorite artist to hear my song
37 I'm a songwriter - not a performer
38 What and Who are publishers
39 Is there a market for Xmas songs
40 Protecting a band name

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QUESTION:

How many times can you submit demo tapes to a single publisher? If they do not accept songs you have submitted the first time, can you send them a demo with different songs? Will they remember that they did not like your earlier materials? (O.K. - I know there are multiple questions here, but they are on the same topic.) Thanks for considering my question.

ANSWER (by Paul Zollo):

Sure, my pleasure. Your question implies that you send songs off to publishers without calling them on the phone, or meeting with them personally. Which I do not suggest. It's better to call them, and to see if they are accepting material at the time (and if they are not, DON'T cross them off your list. Call them back in exactly ONE month and ask again. Some of this has to do with timing , and sometimes a publisher might just put you off at first) . If you have already submitted material to this publisher and got rejected, that is certainly not a reason to not return to them. Publishers turn down much more than they accept, and many are quite open to listening to whatever you have -- if you are professional, etc. -- in hope of hearing a potential hit.

Many publishers already have staff writers and simply don't have much if any need for outside writers, so don't waste your time just sending tapes anywhere. You must be selective, and the best way to do this is to call them first. If you can meet them in person, as unpleasant as that might seem to be, it is always best. It's so much easier to turn down someone over the phone as opposed to when you are sitting there. Of course, they will reject you to your face -- this is a business, after all, and many publishers will not listen to whole songs -- they want to hear the chorus -- the "hook" -- and if they hear a hit, they will be interested. So don't allow your feelings to be hurt -- it's a cold and ruthless world -- they aren't looking for artistic merit, they are looking for a hit, which often means something that sounds like something currently on the charts. Some of the best hit songwriters are the best imitators, the ones that know what is hot, what will be hot, and write for a specific niche or market. Whether any quality songs are created this way is another issue -- but one must understand the game if interested in playing it. Getting publishers interested in your songs takes a lot of work -- a lot of drive and passion.

It doesn't necessarily have that much to do with songwriting -- it has to do with marketing your work, which is not easy. Good luck.

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32 Songwriting in school

QUESTION:

>I read that you did an independent study project in college because there were no songwriting courses. I am currently in college and hold an Associate's degree in music business, but cannot decide what to major in. I enjoy creative writing but would like to write lyrics eventually, not poems. Any suggestions?

ANSWER (by Paul Zollo):

I would suggest that you major in English and read EVERYTHING you can get your hands on. I know you don't want to be a poet, but reading poetry from all times is wonderful for any songwriter. So many great songwriters and lyricists have been influenced by the great poets: Dylan often writes in the same time meters as did Lord Byron, and refers to everything from Shakespeare and Rimbaud and the Bible in his work. And reading great novels is also very useful for songwriters, as far as thinking in terms of a narrative, and the use of metaphor and symbology and imagery.

If you wanted to write music and words, I would suggest you study music as well as words. But since you want to be a lyricist, I would take the great advantage of college to absorb as much great writing as you possibly can. There's no way you won't be tremendously enriched by it.

At the same time, if there are courses in music appreciation -- and art appreciation and art history -- all of this is very useful for a songwriter. All knowledge helps, of course, but especially that which deals with artistic process, and knowing how people such as Michaelangelo or Jackson Pollack created their work is extremely instructive for a songwriter. And on your own, apart from school, you can certainly absorb all the songs you can -- from records -- songs from all times and in every genre -- and pay close attention to the ways in which words are used in your favorite songs. Pay attention to the use of symbols and images and rhyme and rhythm. In this way you can educate yourself a great deal about songwriting, because it is all available to you. And at the same time, you can take advantage of this great time in your life -- being in college -- to read everything you possibly can read. Later in life it won't be as easy to do, when you are involved in whatever work you get involved in, which hopefully will be songwriting. Good luck.

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33 Should I sign a contract and pay them?

QUESTION:

>I want to know about standard recording contract. I was offered a contract by East Coast Record productions to change one of my poems into a song but they wanted me to sign a contract and for them to produce it would cost me $200. Is this good or Not?

ANSWER (by Paul Zollo):

This is absolutely NOT GOOD. They are a classic example of what is referred to as 'song sharks' in that they prey on beginning songwriters like yourself, take your money, put out a schlocky record that is very quickly and poorly recorded, and which is ONLY purchased by those songwriters included. It will do you no good whatsoever. This is not a path for professional and/or songwriters -- only for hobbyists.

Keep this in mind, folks : ANYTIME AT ALL a company asks you to PAY them to put out one of your songs, this is BIG trouble. There are many companies that have done this for years -- they often change their name so it's hard to keep track of them -- but during my many years working at the National Academy of Songwriters we used to answer calls every day from people who got these kind of deals. And we'd say, 'WATCH OUT!' Spend your money in constructive ways -- such as making good demos of your songs, and getting them to publishers.

Though I know it seems appealing to get your song recorded and on an album, I promise this is no good. It's not professional, had no industry status, and will simply be a waste of your money. Now if songwriting is just a fling for you, and you don't mind spending 200 bucks for a bad recording of your song, and you have no professional aspirations whatsoever, then you might want to do this. But if you are a serious songwriter, and someone who hopes to be a pro, tell them to FORGET ABOUT IT!

Companies I know who have done this kind of thing are RAINBOW RECORDS, COLUMBINE RECORDS, HOLLYWOOD RECORDS. Now we can add this name EAST COAST RECORD PRODUCTIONS to this list of companies to steer clear from!

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34 Do I have to submit Pro demos for copyright registration?

QUESTION:

With regards to registering a copyright, do you have to submit a professional demo or can the words/music be submitted? What if you can not write out the music? Is the melody line enough?

ANSWER (by Paul Zollo):

GOOD question. Copyright law has evolved a lot in the past decades. Time was when you had to have a melody written out and submitted to the Library of Congress to register a copyright. This is NO LONGER the case. According to the present copyright law in America, as soon as a song is complete and put in a 'fixed form,' the copyright is automatically assigned to the author or authors of the song. This means that as soon as you tape your song that you do own the copyright -- the tape is a fixed form. You can still write out the melody or have that transcribed for you, and that transcription is also considered a fixed form. But it is not necessary -- simply tape the song and you have attained a copyright. You should put your name, the year and the copyright symbol at the bottom of every lyric page you have.

HOWEVER -- and this is a big However -- the copyright must be REGISTERED with the library of congress. ATTAINING the copyright and REGISTERING a copyright are two different things. And the ONLY way to do that is to fill out their form PA (which you can obtain by calling them --- 202-707-3000 for information, and for forms call 202-707-9100.) But you must get the right form -- the PA form (which stands for Performing Arts) and not the SR form (which is for Sound Recordings -- this is to copyright the record, not the song). Then fill out the form or forms, send in your tape and/or lyric sheet with it, and wait for your registration to come back to you. It could take several months.

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35 How much production is necessary

QUESTION:

First, I would like to thank you for unselfishly devoting your time. I have written about 40 songs that I am able to perform in my live singles act - they seem to go over O.K., however I have no money to record a decent demo - but do have a lousy home recording done on a 4-track, mostly just guitar and vocals. Is there anyone out there that you are aware of who give a serious listen to a couple and critique or steer me to the next step, or am I wasting time until I get full production. These are copyrighted but not published. Thanks again and God bless.

ANSWER (by Paul Zollo):

Thank you.

There are few people in this business who can listen to a "lousy" home demo and hear the total potential of a song. UNLESS the demo is done well -- and with the advent of ADATs and all, people can certainly create absolutely WONDERFUL demos at home. But the fidelity of a regular 4-track cassette is not usually going to sound too great in this respect, unless you have other outboard gear to spruce it up, and don't bounce tracks too much.

Since you say you perform these songs as a singles act with voice and guitar, I must inquire: Is this folk? If these are essentially folk songs, they don't require full pop production. Folk is meant to be heard in a simple setting -- you don't need drums, etc. If these are pop or rock songs, however, and do demand fuller production, I would suggest that you look around -- there are countless places where you can go these days -- or send your song -- to have very good professional demos made that don't cost a fortune. By that I mean in the neighborhood of between $100- $500 per song, based on how elaborate the production. There are many great country producers that provide this -- which is essentially a "demo service" -- or if you are a musician yourself, you can do it yourself in a studio that has good rates. And again, because of ADATs and the advent of home studio recording, there are many people with tiny home studios who charge very low rates and provide a very good sound.

That might seem like a lot of money to spend, but a songwriter must invest if they are serious. I know I have wasted time trying to cut corners to save money --only to wind up with a demo that's not good enough to effectively present my song. Which is worthless, except in terms of education.

There are other ways of getting demos made -- bartering with studios, or working for them. I have worked -- long ago -- as an assistant in a recording studio in exchange for recording time. And more recently while working on my most recent album, I did some computer work for the studio in exchange for time. So we songwriters must be craft in EVERY way -- not only with words and music -- to ensure that our songs get out into the world in good shape.

BECAUSE publishers are used to hearing such perfectly produced demos these days, and because the fidelity of these is so good due to digital recording, anything less than this sounds extremely amateur to them. So one must make good demos to have even a decent chance of getting your songs cut.

And what makes a good demo is an entirely different conversation -- but suffice to say here that besides simply making it sound good and clear --NO HISS-- that you want to emphasize the chorus at all costs. Make sure that when your chorus comes people KNOW it's the chorus.

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36 How do I get my favorite artist to hear my song?

QUESTION:

How do I get my favorite artist to hear my song?

ANSWER (by Paul Zollo):

Establish a career as a music journalist over ten years or so, arrange to set up an interview, and after doing a good job, pass them your tape. Well, that's my technique anyway. This is not an easy one to answer -- The conventional way to go about this is to send the song to the manager of the singer. Another way is to find out who is producing the next album by this artist --and the Internet, folks, is a great font of fast information, much of it accurate -- and try to get to that person somehow. The best avenue would be to find out exactly what kind of song they might be looking for -- or even if they are looking at all. Now good music publishers are often linked into this information, and are looking for songs for specific artists because they have received word from their producer. But this info goes mostly to established writers, staff writers, etc.

So those are the two most normal ways to do this. Get your tape/song to the manager or the producer. Or you can try -- though it's a long shot but all of this is really -- to get it to their lawyer, dentist, brother, etc. Someone who can give it to the artist for you. Or you can try something more aggressive and outrageous, like getting naked, or dressing as a giant pickle, and delivering the song yourself. As this method can often lead to arrest, I wouldn't suggest it.

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37 I'm a songwriter - not a performer

QUESTION:

I know this may seem like sort of a strange question, but I just won a local award for songwriting, and I'm singing it on front of a crowd Friday. I didn't know I'd have to perform my song and now I have to do it, but I don't really have much confidence in my voice ability. I really want to have a go at this but I'm afraid of making an idiot out of my self? Any ideas?

ANSWER (by Paul Zollo):

You have to decide if you want to be a performer. If you don't want to do this, then simply don't. If people want to hear your song performed live, find yourself a good singer who can sing it well -- I am sure they wouldn't mind the exposure. If you decide that you do want to perform, then take voice lessons, and learn how to develop vocal control. You should also get aerobic exercise to be a good singer -- running, swimming, etc. -- to build up your lung power. Sinatra as a young man used to swim underwater every day -- and it made a difference.

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38 What are Who are publishers

QUESTION:

I keep seeing the word, "publishers" for songwriters, what exactly and who are they, are they record companies also? or is their certain hidden song publishers in which you must submit too?

ANSWER (by Paul Zollo):

Another good question. Though I am a little reluctant to constantly plug my own books, but obviously only a very little, I must direct you to my first book, THE BEGINNING SONGWRITER’S ANSWER BOOK (By Paul Zollo, Writers Digest Books) which answers 200 of these very questions. On this issue, I not only define what a music publisher is, but quote from six different music publishers about their definition .

The basic answer is this: A music publisher is a person in the business of finding songs and attempting to get these songs recorded by artists. The songwriter is the creator of the song. He has every right to serve as his own publisher. There is no obligation to have a song published by an outside publisher, nor does it require any license to become a music publisher.

The publisher controls the copyright of the song. The publisher makes decisions as to who the song is pitched to and how it can be used.

Unlike a book publisher who publishes a product himself, the music publisher must find some use for the song that will generate income, and this is primarily getting it recorded. So the publisher's main purpose is in the placing of songs. There used to be a big market for sheet music -- in the age when people sat around pianos to sing the songs of the day. As this is no longer the case, the publisher is mainly concerned with getting songs recorded. He is also responsible often for the administration of the song - making sure royalties are collected, and controlling any other uses of the song. A record company is not a music publisher. However, a record company might have their own publishing department, such as at Disney, where they both record music and put out albums, as well as serve as music publishers. But this is NOT to say that you should send songs to record companies if you are a songwriter trying to get cuts. Record companies are looking for recording artists, while publishers look for songs.

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39 Is there a market for Xmas songs?

QUESTION:

IS THERE A MARKET FOR ORIGINAL CHRISTMAS SONGS, OR ARE WE DOOMED TO HEAR THE SAME STUFF OVER AND OVER AGAIN?

ANSWER (by Paul Zollo):

There is a market for Christmas songs and all kinds of specific holiday songs. Many publishers look specifically for holiday songs, such as Justin Wilde Music in Los Angeles ( at least he used to.) Check out the Songwriters Market 1998 book by Writers Digest -- look at their music publisher listings and call and simply ask if they want Christmas music. I know there are some looking only for that. Good luck.

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40 Protecting a band name

QUESTION:

How do you go about protecting a band name? I really like the name of my band and do not want to have to change it if and when we get signed. Nowhere locally (Phoenix, AZ) or via the web have I been able to find out information on the naming of Bands. I have gone to the Secretary of State and had the Trade name registered but is that enough? Your response is very much appreciated.

ANSWER (by Paul Zollo):

That is the right thing to do. A band name, unlike a song title -- IS considered a business trademark if this is a professional band that generates income under that name. So you do require trademark protection on a band name that you cannot get for a song title. (Nor can you copyright a title, though you can get a copyright for the song.) To get that, a name search is done and if someone already has your name, you will be informed. If you have already registered this trademark, you are set. Nice going.

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